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Charles John Carr

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Photo of John Carr with three of his nephews from Australia in Egypt during WW1 The three nephews were Arthur Percy (Punch), Charles Rowland (Barl) and Edgar Norman (Sticks) who were in the Light Horse Brigade.

Charles John Carr (1807-1899)

1807 Born in London

c.1827 Took over his step-father's nail manufacturing business in Belper, Derbyshire when his step- father Joseph Spencer died

1834 Married in Duffield to Pauline Lomas

1838 Mentioned. 'Charles John Carr, nail manufacturer' of Belper.[1]

1841 Nail manufacturer of Belper. With Paulina and three children.[2]

1851 Living in Belper: Paulina Carr (age 42 born Belper), Iron Manufacturers wife, with six children; Spencer Carr (age 12 born Belper); Henry Carr (age 10 born Belper); John Carr (age 9 born Belper); Edward Carr (age 7 born Belper); Harriett Carr (age 5 born Belper); Miller Carr (age 11 born Belper); and Charlotte Carr (age 2 born Belper). Also her sister Mary Ann Spencer (age 38 born Belper) and her niece Martha Spencer (age 8 born East Indies. Four servants.[3]

1857 Bankruptcy. 'In the Matter of John Bridges and Charles John Carr, of Belper, in the county of Derby, Millwrights, Nail Manufacturers, Dealers and Chapmen...'[4][5][6]

1858 of Wentworth, Yorkshire. Atmospheric Forge Hammer.[7]

1859 Patent. '1538. And George Dawes, of Milton Iron Works, in the parish of Hoyland, in the county of York, Ironmaster, and Charles John Carr, of Hoyland aforesaid, Engineer, have given the like notice in respect of the invention of "certain improvements in atmospheric and vacuum hammers and stamps, part of which improvements is also applicable to steam and other engines."'[8]

1860s Three of his sons - John Carr, Charles "Spencer" Carr and Henry Thomas Carr had relocated to Egypt and taken up engineering posts there.

1861 Living in at Milton Iron Works, Nether Hoyland, Yorkshire, as an Engineer. With his wife Paulina and three children.[9] See Graham and Co

1871 Living in Cheetham, Manchester, mechanical engineer, with his wife Paulina and three children.[10]

1873 Mentioned as of Manchester, late of Belper.[11]

1899 December 15th. Died. Probate to James Miller Carr, manager of Works.


1892 At Cairo (Egypt), on the 2nd of February, Charles Spencer Carr, aged 53 years.[12]

Possible invention of a special horseshoe by John Carr for horses in desert conditions.

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Sources of Information

  1. Derbyshire Courier - Saturday 12 May 1838
  2. 1841 Census
  3. 1851 Census
  4. The London Gazette Publication date:1 September 1857 Issue:22036 Page:2985
  5. The London Gazette Publication date:9 February 1858 Issue:22094 Page:640
  6. Derbyshire Advertiser and Journal - Friday 11 December 1857
  7. The Engineer 1858/12/24
  8. The London Gazette Publication date:9 August 1859 Issue:22296 Page:3040
  9. 1861 Census
  10. 1871 Census
  11. Derbyshire Courier - Saturday 25 January 1873
  12. Derbyshire Times and Chesterfield Herald - Saturday 05 March 1892