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John Bibby, Sons and Co

From Graces Guide

Business established by John Bibby

1838 John Bibby, Sons and Co bought the copper smelter, the Ravenhead Copper Works, from William Keates[1]

The business also had copper-rolling works at Garston, Liverpool[2]

1861 Arbitration took place between Messrs John and J. J. Bibby and the Seacombe Mill Company and the Mersey Docks and Harbour Board[3]

1865 Advert: 'To COPPER ROLLER, TUBE, and PLATE MANUFACTURERS, BROKERS, and Others. T. M. FISHER SON have received Instructions from the Mersey Docks and Harbour Board to SELL by AUCTION, on Thursday next, the 3lst instant, commencing at Twelve o’clock an. on the Promises lately occupied Messrs. John Bibby, Sons, and Co., as Copper Rolling Mills, Seacombe, near Birkenhead, Cheshire, the following valuable PLANT, comprising three capital high-pressure steam boilers, each 32ft. long, 6ft. diameter, with flue through, stop and feed valves ; one ditto ditto 34ft. long, 6ft. 6in. diameter, with flue through 3ft. 3in. diameter, safety valves, junction ditto, steam chest, 5ft. 6in. by 3ft. 6in., pipes, and blow-off valves; one ditto ditto 28ft. long, 6ft. diameter, with flue through 4ft. diameter, valves, and pipes; one ditto with egg-end 18ft. long, 4ft. 6in. diam., with dome 2ft. 4in., safety valves, with spring balance, feed valve, high and low water gauge and pipes, J. Jones, Liverpool. One capital condensing beam engine, 80-horse power, cylinder 50in. diam. 8ft. stroke, two spur driving wheels 14ft. 6in. by 12in. by 4 1/2 on 16ft. of cast-iron rib, shaft 14 in. diam., eccentric motion, pumps and governors; cast iron condensing cistern 8ft. by 8ft. by 12ft, exhaust pipes and valves, by Nevill, Llanelly. One condensing beam engine, 30-horse power, cylinder 30in. diam. 6ft. stroke, fly-wheel 16ft. diam, rim 11in. by 12in., with governors, valves, pumps, and pipes, by Nevill. One 35-horse high-pressure ditto, cylinder 22in. 4ft. stroke, fly wheel, 16ft. diameter, rim 17in. by 9in. on 10ft. of 14in. cast-iron shaft, with spur driving wheels 6ft. 91n. by 9in. by 3 1/2, governors, pumps, and valves, by Nevill. One 12in. lifting pump, with cast-iron beam and connecting rod one 8in. ditto with ditto; one 3 1/2in. and one 2 1/2in. ditto ditto. Eleven plate rolling and bar machines, with cast-iron bowls from 9ft. to 4ft. long, 22in. and 18in. diameter. Two tilting hammers and fixings; nine plate shearing machine with eccentric motion and driving gear ; two circular ditto to take in 77in. diameter and 80in. traverse, Nevill; ditto take in 48in. diameter. 12cwt. steam hammer, with 8-in. cylinder, 15-in. stroke, regulating screw and check motion, and cast-iron block, by Nasymth, Punching machine and fixings. 39 copper couplings, from 9in. to 18in. diameter and 12in. face; cast-iron engine beds, 28ft. long, 8ft. wide; massive spur and bevel gearing ; quantity of cast iron shafting, from 5in. to 14in diam.; quantity of steam and water pipes; wrought iron jib crane, to lift one ton; gasometer, 18ft. diam. 9ft. deep, with filters, regulating organ pipes, and fire clay retorts; copper boiler, 20in. 16in. deep, and other effects.
May be viewed on Wednesday, the 20th last, and catalogues may be had on the premises, or from the auctioneers, 16, Tib-lane. behind the Bank of England, Manchester.'[4]

1868 NOTICE is hereby given, that the Partnership heretofore subsisting between the undersigned, James Jenkinson Bibby, John Bibby the younger, and Richard Gilbert, as Merchants of Silver, Copper, Brass, Lead, and other metals, at Liverpool, as Copper Smelters at St. Helen's, and as Copper and Yellow Metal Manufacturers at Garston, all in the county of Lancaster, under the firm of John Bibby Sons and Company, was dissolved, as regards the said Richard Gilbert, on the 27th day of November, 1868.—Dated the 10th day of October. 1874.
Jas. J. Bibby. John Bibby. Richard Gilbert.

1872 the partnership between James Jenkinson Bibby, Frederick Richards Leyland and John Bibby, Junior as Ships' Husbands and Commission Agents, at Liverpool, under the firm of John Bibby, Sons, and Co., expired by effluxion of time on the 31st day of December, 1872.[5]

1873 The steamship business of John Bibby, Sons and Co was acquired by Frederick Leyland, and the company name changed to Frederick Leyland and Co; the metals business was continued under the name of John Bibby, Sons and Co[6]

1874 The partnership of James Bibby and John Bibby trading as John Bibby Sons and Company, was dissolved on the 10th day of October, 1874.[7]

1878 James Pitcairn Campbell left the partnership with John Bibby the younger and Edward Bibby. as Merchants in Copper and other Metals, and as Commission Merchants, in Liverpool, Copper Smelters, at St. Helen's, and Copper Rollers, at Garston, under the firm of John Bibby, Sons, and Co.[8]

1883 Edward Bibby left the Partnership with John Bibby, Merchants and Copper Smelters and Copper Rollers, carried on by them at Liverpool, St. Helen's, and Garston, in the county of Lancaster, under the style or firm of John Bibby, Sons, and Co.[9]

At some point became the copper rolling works at Garston became John Bibby, Sons and Co (Garston); the smelters at St Helens were a separate concern. On the death of his father, John Bibby, Junior, in 1898 his son John Hartley Bibby took on the management of both concerns[10]

1907 Close association established with Broughton Copper Works

1928 Acquired by Broughton Copper Works (1928) on its flotation as a public company[11]

1933 Broughton Copper Works (1928) was acquired by ICI Metals Division

1943 Company liquidated; the assets were taken over by ICI Metals Ltd.

See Also


Sources of Information

  1. Some founders of the Chemical Industry [1]
  2. The Times Nov 29, 1938
  3. records of IMI, Birmingham archives [2]
  4. Liverpool Mercury - Friday 15 September 1865
  5. London Gazette 3 January 1873
  6. The Times, Jan 01, 1873
  7. London Gazette, 20 October 1874
  8. London Gazette 1 July 1879
  9. London Gazette 3 July 1883
  10. The Times, Nov 29, 1938
  11. The Times , Feb 24, 1928